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藹~ snufkin~

藹:

no ar~
according to the link u posted that talked abt the art work...it is banned by pig cruelty "surface-ly"......
"China loves its pigs, and Shanghai has said NO to pig cruelty. In latest news, the eight pigs tattooed with Louis Vuitton logoes and other Walt Disney characters — highly controversial works of art by Belgian artist Wim Delvoye — has been banned by the organisers of SHContemporary, the city's largest contemporary art fair. No explicit reason has been given by spokespeople for the ban." http://shanghaiist.com/2008/09/09/tattooed_louis_vuitton_pigs_banned.php

on the other hand, it shouldnt be "uncapable to let animal going into the exhibition", since according to the China contemporary art history, that artists using animal to do art works is began at abt 80's to 90's, and actually the works scales become even larger and start to enter the big art shows, esp after 90's till now. Therefore this is non-sense for using such a reason of the govnt, too.

therefore, i think, whatever it was "animal cruelty" that said by the article / news report link, or was 藹 said "主辦單位話難以安排動物入場", all are govnt's surface reasons only!!

and moreover, it is non-sense for (if) the china govnt saying it is 侵犯 LV logo 知識產權 on this art work, bcoz when the pigs/animal grow, actually the logo patterns are changing too, so it wont be a reasonable reason to ban as "侵犯 LV logo 知識產權" too... as this is my own experience on doing art work / creation.

snufkin:

yes the show is open to public with entrance fee, $30, or student,elderly,handicap, $15.

LV 應該無出狗帶，到時話你侵犯知識產權。。。

要阻止作品展出，有好多理由，我估上海嗰次唔係 animal cruelty（我唔覺有咁的 argument)，而係主辦單位話難以安排動物入場。

背後當然係作品的諷刺力，LV 世界最大的市場是在國內，把 LV 刻在豬身上，真的不言而寓。

Is this exhibit open to

Is this exhibit open to public? Can we walk in and protest silently with proper banner?

唐英年與Museum of HK art請你解解畫

唐英年在Lcsd:官商勾結，鐵證如山show opening 中說是他去年去paris與LV reached an agreement to bring this show to HK (資料從RTHK work節目)..這叫我怀疑找這show到香港的想法是來自Museum 的artistic 的決策人，還是唐英年先生自己的想法。
一個museum有沒有自己獨立的策展決策權，如果有，這基制是怎樣的?就這次Lcsd:官商勾結，鐵證如山show，是誰make decision?只有鄧海超館長?還是有其他顧問?當中的討論可否公開作為公衆藝術教育?另外600萬元經費是來自museum常年的撥款，還是政府額外的撥款?這show在整体的藝術館策展方向有什麼意義?如果不是唐英年先生的意思，為什麼museum能派唐司長去傾呢?是不是這是一宗像disney般的交易?如果是唐英年先生的意思，他憑什麼做這決定，是否干擾藝術自由?他有沒有申報利益?他曾買過多少LV手袋給太太，我相信金額不少於梁錦松的汽車。

唔知我買條LV狗帶俾我隻狗之後入唔入得去?

唔知我買條LV狗帶俾我隻狗之後入唔入得去? 話曬都係顧客嘛...

respond to LV PIG ARTWORK

先謝過藹的link, 報導有關該作品的事~
事忙遲了post comment, sorry.

好明顯...
館/官方,
明借 Animal Cruelty 為由,
實暗在做官商相畏+相惠+勾結之事,
打壓創作/發表意見的自由.

小弟不相信,
若非pig tatoo,
而改為permenant stamp chop on pig的話,
(because the artist wants to make the marks on the pig, from it was young/small, to/untill it has grown up becomes big in size, in order to express the artist's meaning of his/this art work),
館/官方不會 ban 而可容許展出!!!

該artist若當初不用tatoo而用其他媒材,
現在應可搞大佢,
起碼可和官/館方論戰一下.
現俾人捉痛腳 (被砌 pig cruelty, then be banned),
真不值!!!!
有理說不得 + 有苦自己知,
吃了食貓~

PS
在此兼說: 創作同業, 共勉共鑑之!!
行船要小心, 免自己製造陷阱被人砌自己呢!!
若自己都不小心, 真係連乜創作/發表意見自由都自已斷送埋!!
觀眾也又少了好作品去看去思考了!!!!

it is of course to mock

or else it won't be banned...

tattooed pig? what does the

tattooed pig? what does the artist try to express?
the first time I saw the tattooed pigs, I thought they are to mock the LV and the fans

Three cheers!

It's pretty inspiring to see someone who has the courage to challenge the establishment. I didn't see the exhibit but I suspect it resembles a trade show more than an art show.

As far as the pigs are concerned, it would be nice if people could put lipstick on the pigs, too.

This reminds me of a recent youtube video of an act of civil disobedience. When we the outsiders can't change things from the inside, raising awareness in nonviolent ways seems to be the only means to confront the powerful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDmRdfyAUio

兩隻豬被 ban了

剛才上網搵，原來兩隻豬被 ban 了無得入場，個 artist 係Wim Delvoye；不過在網上以 image search 搵 LV art，好快就見到 LV 與豬的創作。
http://shanghaiist.com/2008/09/09/tattooed_louis_vuitton_pigs_banned.php

Reply: LV pig in Shanghai exhibition

我剛打算和我的兔子--Beuys the artist rabbit,
做另一個回應LV展的作品,
現籌劃中.

第一個作品已在22may2009@JCCAC做了,
資料整理中,
稍後會post上in-media分享的.

再,
謝謝阿藹的貼圖和回應.
有更多關於該作品的資料嗎?
如作者和作品名稱.
因有很多中國artist / overseas artist living in china,
喜歡用活豬,牛,羊,馬,etc,
帶入展場,
用牠們的毛皮來做作品,
(eg.draw/write/chop-stamp on their skin),
or let them 生活 on the site like in a farm,
or let them 生產/育,
etc and etc,
來做作品.

this one 騎劫 LV 的,
都幾有趣.

謝謝snufkin

改了，謝謝。

I think this thead / post

I think this thead / post should be elaborated since it's in the Focus.

Is the link of Jackso broken? or it's just me?

LCSD：官商勾結　罪證如山展

這是什麼？

LV pig in Shanghai exhibition

LV　常常以藝術的名義，推銷其產品，國內是最大的市場，有藝術家要搗蛋，把 LV的標誌刻在豬上，於上海藝術節參展。下次展可以帶隻攞住 LV 的狗去玩下。