香港獨立媒體 - Comments for "A Passion To Serve?!"

絕對同意

無可否認，很多人都把第三世界看成動物園裏的動物，把自己當成救世主。捐少少錢或做點義工，好給自己製造一個道德光環，好令自己在無道消費、娛樂時，良心好過一點。（我自己也有少許這種心態，我是三個Bingo的定期捐款人超過三年，現在因重回校園沒有收入才停止捐款。）

所以選擇Bingo，正如留言者所言，是因為它們的行政做得好，帳目清晰，而且已建立良好的信譽。我亦明白，對於小團體，這點的確很難做到。不過，作為捐款人，當然希望每一分每一毫都可以落到有需要的人手上，又沒有時間和心力去投身其中監察捐款的實際去向，那Bingo就可給我「信心保證」了－－雖然當中也可能有些不為人知的黑幕。

至於Bingo那些代言人和董事什麼的，說得難聽一點，是互利互惠，大家都有着數。可是在現今全球化和資本主義下，這樣的宣傳策略無疑是最乎合成本效益，我可想不出其他取代或改善方法啊！

我們可以做的，就是調節助人時的態度，切忌「旁觀他人的痛苦」，同時發揮愛人如己的精神，把愛心伸延至第三世界時，也不要忽視身邊的人，可以是本港的小型NGO、NPO，甚至是你的家人朋友、街上遇到的路人甲，這是最直接的。

有關援助第三世界的批判，大家還可以參考本港戰地女記者張翠容撰寫的《行過烽火大地》：
http://www.rthk.org.hk/mediadigest/20030315_76_68704.html

鬼妹執垃圾

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呢d就真係善心....唔使咁使錢去到印度咁遠既....

There are some good rich people

At least that is what I believed in.

And we hope to find them and set up fundings that favor LSNGO instead of big church linked "NGO"(?)(I'm always critical if they are real NGOs or church-members-recuiting-centers?)

籌款與倡議

官紳名流要的是名... 小團體如何能滿足旨在沽名釣譽的名流呢... 小團體多是倡議機構,名流的脈絡正是被批評的對象,又如何會跟它們沾上關係?

世間上並無免費午餐,說到底名流捐錢而交換的是上報紙或千古留名... 當然其中會有一些有心人...

富豪之所以能成為富豪因為他們貪錢市儈,無論是有道義的還是不擇手段的,他們的共通點是喜歡賺錢,他們的思維多和這些機構南轍北轅...

A quick response

First, I would like to say is that INGO or BINGO has its origin, they were small NGOs that survived locally and get bigger internationally.

Second, I participated in BINGO and LSNGO (Local small NGO), and it is quite common for local NGO running into finanical problem.

I would say it is important to support both. The local NGOs played a very important role as they focus on local issues, local problems, local government.

But if it is as big a goal as to "eliminate" poverty (the theme for last year International Human Rights Day), we not only need BINGOs, LSNGOs, but the UN, States (governments) cooperation.

I never see them as "angel" but those who are willing to go are doing something "meaningful" for themselves but for others as well.

In the US (I dare say many posters here dislike) have peacecorps. No matter you like the country or not, Peacecorps have helped trained a lot of young people to care about the world.

The BINGOs, LSNGOs alone do not give meanings to the work, it is those who participated get whatever meanings to their own experience.

And it is not even possible to find meanings all the time. But in the long run, BINGOs and LSNGOs are important as the "force" to hold government responsible for their obligations, and when time is bad (internal arm conflicts, forced displacement, localized environmental disasters, locallized human rights violations), BINGOs and LSNGOs are probably the only ones who could tell the "truth" about the events.

One of my pet dislike is using starving children to get donations, especially when they have high administration cost like World xxsion. I profer the more realistic appoarch in providing long term soluation. But that is just me.

As for humanitarian actions.... what else could I say as most Hong Kong people just don't know enough to do anything. It is up to the BINGOs to eduation them on any humanitarian actions.

As for 成立小團體基金會, there are some. Asking for funding is another "skll" that many small NGOs do not have. And as some of the NGOs are more contraversial than others, it is harder for them to get funding.

You are right. There are a lot of rich people who donate money to big Fund. But if you look at their criteria, you will see why they would not go to "Church-related NGOs". I don't know why. And wonder if it is harder for a non-church-related-NGOs to get funding from big foundatons.

Take a look.

http://www.commchest.org/chi/allocation/c9.pdf
http://www.commchest.org/chi/allocation/c8.pdf
http://www.commchest.org/chi/allocation/c6.pdf

Just in case you are wondering, the community chest new funding for this year has deadline of Sept last year. Here is the form and things required.
http://www.commchest.org/events/darea/applicationform_mni.doc

成立小團體基金會可能性

贊成藹雲的建議，其實香港有公益金、有賽馬會和獎券基金，又有東華三院、仁濟醫院、博愛醫院、仁愛堂等等的總理名流紳士，還有數以千計隱形富豪，點計都可以有財政能力支持一個小團體基金會。問題出在哪裡？想到這裡，不禁有點戚然...

未打開

我也收到了通訊，但未打開。

哎呀，為甚麼總是這麼忙？？？我不要呀！！！

小團體的限制

要做好財政和工作匯報, 以致捐錢的售後服務, 是很困難的事. 很多以前是小團體, 後來發展為 bingo 的, 絶大部份是中產階級的背景, 又或有敎會支持, 最少在成立的頭幾年有一筆很大的捐款, 以搞好行政和基礎建設. 這些都很講關係, 這幾年亦見識唔少.

以獨媒核心來說, 個個都係讀書人, 有些是有點兒 NGO 經驗, 但我們都常為財政/籌款發愁, 再草根一點的團體就更難了.

若我們有一筆三年包行政費的 full support 撥款, 相信三年以內是可以 self sustain, 但問題是, 現在所有行政籌款工作都是義務的, 很難走出惡性循環.

單就天星一事, 整個編輯部就癱瘓了, 若搞多一兩單, 捐血都唔掂.

要殺出一條血路, 大概要有一些集體 effort 幫忙籌謀, 推廣本地草根團體才成.

即使小團體也有識貨人

申報利益：我過去很少捐錢給BINGO，只有在綠豆還沒來香港前，和南亞海嘯時捐錢給牛記同紅十字，其餘大部分捐過給婦進、女工協會、獨媒、內地和亞洲多國的小團體，及一些國外的小額基金會等等。

其實，國外有很多名不見經傳的基金會，他們資助了一些很有意義的砍拼活動，然後在人心目中建立了信譽，此後，我會要求看到一份交代清晰的財務報告和可持續的管理體制。君不見施老板也不時捐錢給小團體？

我覺得小團體要給人信心，做出成績，不亂花錢，才可不卑不亢，茁壯成長。往日的BINGO，也何嘗不曾是我們口中的小團體？

一條血路

我也在想, 到底小團體之間有沒有辦法殺出一條血路? 雖然我也身在bingo, 我仍然是向身邊想損錢的善長說, 要幫, 就幫真正有需要而不是已經水浸的團體。奈何, 在香港, 捐錢都是講品牌而不是問你到底做過什麼的。

老薑說得較辣

很奇怪的現象, 大家越來越同情遠方的他者, 但對身邊值得同情幫忙的人卻漠不關心, 而香港的國際視野, 也就如此...

之前亦很想批評 bingo, 但是與其花力氣批評一些改變不了的團體(其運作已經成方程式, 就算自己入去做亦會係咁), 不如開拓其他的空間.

不過香港的捐款, 確實被 bingo 壟斷了, 本地的小團體完全沒有資源, 所以仍會呼籲大家盡量捐給本地小團體...

香港在批判全球化的位置

其實在發達地區，非牟利組織(NPO)的競爭已經非常白熱化，出現了塘水滾塘魚的情況... 但是，他們為了爭取最大的曝光，已經別無他法，跟上了約定俗成的遊戲規則。但，要整肅這個風尚，談何容易，更遑論要反省NPO行業在推動社會改革的角色。

此外，要補充一句：非常可惜的是，香港人從來沒有把遠在他方的貧窮連結到自己國家可能正在輸出貧窮和人權侵犯的行為。香港是可以在這個全球化的過程，發揮一定的影響力，影響並質疑一些國家和企業，包括自己國家的種種表面正當但實質敗壞的商業行為。其實那正是BINGO要在香港成立和宣傳的目的，可是，香港能有這種視野的人，實在是極少數。