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近期美國智慧設計論與進化論之爭再起，可否開壇講吓？

Pat Robertson Warns Pa. Town of Disaster
AP, 11 Nov 2005

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson warned residents of a rural Pennsylvania town Thursday that disaster may strike there because they "voted God out of your city" by ousting school board members who favored teaching intelligent design.

All eight Dover, Pa., school board members up for re-election were defeated Tuesday after trying to introduce "intelligent design" — the belief that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power — as an alternative to the theory of evolution.

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city," Robertson said on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club."

Eight families had sued the district, claiming the policy violates the constitutional separation of church and state. The federal trial concluded days before Tuesday's election, but no ruling has been issued.

Later Thursday, Robertson issued a statement saying he was simply trying to point out that "our spiritual actions have consequences."

"God is tolerant and loving, but we can't keep sticking our finger in his eye forever," Robertson said. "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."

Robertson made headlines this summer when he called on his daily show for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

Thanks, Mr. Tsui!

I am very glad that you have responded to me, to my own personal problem, afterall. Thank you so much!
For me, this is a very tough period in life. I am not sure what I am doing, not sure where I am heading to, not sure why I have to work just for money. There is simply no satisfaction from my job. I don't have time to work on my study.

The worst thing is that the relationship between God and me has totally disappeared. I never felt like this. I have never been very religious, but I DID always feel that God was taking care of me. Now, I am just back to HK, and I feel that I don't belong here. And I really want to look for a suitable church, while I don't have time and information. The feeling is simply not right. I guess it may be my fault, but now as I have been thinking a lot more, I see too many social problems, and I suddenly realise why the 'death rate' of Christians from 'Social Science' field is the highest...... I don't know, I just can't see religion solving many problems. Maybe I still want to look for truth, but I am too confused lately. What should I do?

香港的保守派不是以美國為師的嗎？

Probably. But that is the choice of Hong Kong anti-human-rights-Conservative Christians.

American missonaries have lot of influence in the Asia areas, but not all of the Asia countries have as disgusting a polution of anti-human-rights-Conservative-Christians.

And in the US, there is a balance of moderate Christians who oppose the disgusting Conservative Christians. Do we have that in Hong Kong? I could name Hong Kong Christian Institute and its friendly alliance. But that is the minority. Most of the Christians in Hong Kong are anti-human-rights-Christians. And we have already seen the negative impact on society.

Rather blame it on the US 'root' of evil (anti-humam-rights-Conservative-Christians-ignorance) why don't you take a look on why the so-called-main-stream-Christian-Churches choose to take on such a disgusting stand on human rights.

回Frosting及XOX

回Frosting：
作為一個教徒，總不希望看到有人離教的消息。可是，對自己誠實卻是個比離不離教更重要的問題。假如你發現你「信奉」的宗教與你的期望不同，長痛不如短痛，還是最好作一個取捨。
倘若上了「天堂」才知道那不是你想去的地方，那就太遲了。:)
不過，個人覺得根據這個原則，那些「基要派」人士應該是最先離教的一群。

回XOX：
香港的保守派不是以美國為師的嗎？再進一步說，也許香港的基督教是美國版的老翻。:)

Conservatives version of Christians really do more harm than goo

Conservative Christians anti-women, anti-gay, anti-human rights trend is not limited to the US.

The Conservatives Christians are against anyone who is not a Conservative Christians. They like to control other people lives without bearing any consequence for their actions.

That is why there are anti-abortion Conservative Christians who rally for boycott a toy manufacturer for supporting a NGO who provide programs for underprivileged children.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_rcb101905

In Hong Kong, Conservatives Christians try to harm children by teaching disrespect for human rights to teachers. Conservatives Christians use their resources to spread lies and create hatred for minority they choose to pick on.

I do think that if we do similiar survey in Hong Kong, the result would still comes up with Conservative Christians are harming this society as they are doing it in any other country.

What kind of '基督宗教信仰' is it referring to?

Agree with Mr. Tsui, the meaning of that particular 'Christian religion' doesn't look like a real Christian religion for me.

By the way, I am struggling these days, might consider quitting my religion...... (Not related to such ridiculous sayings and 'research' results, of course. Just, why I don't find it right?) Is Christianity not what I have ever imagined in fact? Or what I have expected may be wrong? ......

少少看法

少少看法：

1)這個研究似乎未能證立因果關係
2)「美國基督教」與「基督教」是兩回事
3)美國與歐洲的分別，不只在宗教。兩者更重要的分野在於「新自由主義資本主義」與「社會民主式資本主義」的分別。

少少推論：
因果之關係鍵可能是：基要主義--->與新自由主義中的「市場原教旨主義」結合(簡要來說：基要主義---認為世風日下--->認為離婚、性開放etc.造成社會問題--->造成福利依賴--->福利是「有害的同情心」--->少福利、大市場，以競爭促進工作倫理--->這也是市場原教旨主義的結論)--->新自由主義政策(減福利，利巨商)--->美國的社會
問題

少少看法：若說美國模式的基督教為禍人間，本人不得不拍手呼應。可是若因此推論出基督教有害，恐怕本人不能認同了。