A Gay Person's Prayer

Dear God,

I have come to You today,
Because, well, You know, I am gay.
The world thinks that this is my choice,
So they refuse to hear my voice.

I have been told that You hate me,
Can this really be a possibility?
They say that I am damned to an eternal hell,
But if I act as if I'm not what I am, all will be well.

But God You know that I have tried,
You know how many times I have cried
.
You know that I have pleaded for a change,
That my life You would take and rearrange.

But no matter how hard I tried,
No matter how many tears I cried,
Everything inside of me has remained the same,
So I ask You now, who should I blame?

Do I blame the society that is unaware?
Do I blame the people who just do not care?
Do I blame those who sit by and shake their head,
Proclaiming that I would be better off dead?

We have become the lepers of today,
And everything that goes wrong is blamed on those who are gay.
However, I know that I am who I am today,
Because it was You, who made me this way.

I did not choose to purposely disobey,
I did not choose to turn away;
But I have chosen to be who I am,
Without shame and not living a sham.

I have chosen to embrace the gift of love,
For surely, this was a gift from above.
So God, now I ask You take me by the hand,
And help me make others understand.

Remove the blindfolds from their eyes,
Remove their shackles and disapproving cries,
Awaken in them the spirit of love so true,
And let them know that being gay came from You.

-- Mac McClure August 28, 2005

Why claim gay / straight comes from God?

I am just a Christian who happened to pass by this blog.

I agree that this prayer presents the crying hearts homosexuals... as that was what i cried for long long time ago too... except for the last line, "And let them know that being gay came from You."

Being a Christian myself, I do not understand why many claim that sexual orientation comes from God.

Why are we people trying to give all the responsibility to God ? In which part of the Bible does God say he assigns sexual orientation to us?

God is a God who gives free will, HE NEVER FORCE PEOPLE TO ACT IN CERTAIN WAYS... It is WE who choose to live whatever lifestyle we like

I hope I've made this theology standpoint clear...

gay=lifestyle?

I'm not a Christian. But I don't agree that being gay is a "lifestyle" that one choose to have!

why free are we?

究竟我們有多自由

I did not choose to be gay
but was chosen
as the author of the prayer,
God knows how hard I have tried to "repair" my sexual orientation but all in vain
to me, that's like destination
No matter how hard i tried, my nature did not change
just like ethinicity, no matter it doesnot change no matter how hard you try.

從大一點的角度說,究竟人是否真的完全自由?
其實人是受着種種的社會環境所制約
一個在貧民區長大的單親家庭小孩子跟一個中產小康家庭長大的孩子,是否享有同樣「選擇不學壞的自由」?一個在伊拉克長大的青年人跟一個在美國長大的年青人,是否享有同等的「選擇成為基督徒的自由」?

完全的個人選擇,跟本沒有社會科學的証據。而這種論述,只會跌入新右派那種只有個人,沒有社會的說法,即一切的社會問題都不過是個人的選擇,而不是social ill。抽離個人所處的社會環境,其成長時的社教化影響而談個人選擇,最後只會是blaming the victim---你活該的,為什麼你要這樣選?

萬事都是從神而來

今天我的同志神學:

萬事都是從神而來的
今天我成為一個同志基督徒也是上帝有份參與的決定
這個決定可能是一個主動的揀選,that is actively assigned a certain sexual orientation to a certain group of ppl; 可能是被動的默許,如無論我如何祈求改變,他都沒有改變我的性傾向。
無論如何,在我這一條不容易的路上,祂都有份

而更重要的是,過去,我認為同志的身份是一個詛咒,是一種苦難
今天,我認為同志,也同時是一個blessing--就是同志不斷受歧視的事實,讓我成為其中一個被壓迫的社會少數,可以謙卑認識其它社會上的邊緣人士,與上帝,與他們一起爭取社會改革;也提醒自己我是一個罪人,亦是一個被罪者,在這種的自我認識下,尋找上帝。對我來說,信仰就是這樣的一回事--温柔體認我們共有的詛咒和苦難,並在當中尋找那位與人類一起受苦的上帝;與人類同胞一起,改革社會。而同志somehow就是一群不斷被世人定罪指責的群體,以致較其它人對罪和被罪、對苦難和壓迫多一點的敏感。

就這樣我說:
The mystery of my gayness
I celebrate with joy
and thanksgiving. thank you, God,
for making me gay.

講番篇禱文

讀到這篇禱文
想番過去八年努力拗直自己、自我否定的經歷
就好似把自己關進圓型監獄

要每時每刻都要警覺
裝上幾部閉路電視去監視那個自己
慎防牠有什麼異動

若有異動的時候
就重重的按下電制
用強力電壓務要控製馴服這個自己...

那個恐怖的自己、那個污穢不堪的自己是要關進監獄中去控制去消滅

But God You know that I have tried,
You know how many times I have cried.
You know that I have pleaded for a change,
That my life You would take and rearrange.

But no matter how hard I tried,
No matter how many tears I cried,
Everything inside of me has remained the same,
So I ask You now, who should I blame?

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Difference between "Allowing" and "Assigning"

I agree we people should have no right to look down on gay / straight people. Anyway, according to the Bible, we all are just sinners, NONE of us are SUPERIOR that others.

So, I totally object to those heterosexuals looking down to homosexuals or bisexuals.

I have had homosexual orientation for 8 years in the past, and I understand the terrible feeling of living in the dark being so "different" from others.

However, back to the point about "God assigns sexual orientation". I really have to say I absolutely don't agree to that. Even with heterosexuals, I don't agree that it is God who assigns them fall in love with a person of the opposite sex. If that is so, then God is not a God giving free will.

God is not a love cupid, who assigns person A to fall in love with person B. FALLING IN LOVE is a free will act by us. If we are saying that God ASSIGNS sexual orientation, then we are also agreeing that every single love happening on Earth is God's assignment. No! God ALLOWS us to love somebody, but He NEVER ASSIGNED us to love anybody. There is a great difference between Assigning and Allowing.

We human have our own parts to play. God is not a love cupid, He is the God who gives us free will.

Anyway, I am here just to tell how God is. I am not here to make arguments or troubles. I hope we can discuss this in peace.. ^-^

Let's go back to the Scripture, and see what God says~

I'm no body to judge, but God can. There it goes:

Holy Bible, New International Version, (c) International Bible Society

Genesis 2:18-24

18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.

But for Adam no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman,'
for she was taken out of man."

24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Romans 1:18-27 * OF HIGH IMPORTANCE

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has
made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust
for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

聖經還講過好多嘢呢

下文只引大意,並非聖經原文
A.性別歧視:
1. 男性是女性的頭
2. 我不許女人講道;女人要一味的順服

B.種族清洗
1.聖經作者用耶和華的口,吩咐以色列人在侵略迦南地(巴勒斯坦)之後,要將迦南人,男男女女老老幼幼,連牲畜都要殺盡

C.種族歧視
1.以斯帖吩咐與外邦人結緍的以色列人要休妻,不知拆散多少美好家庭
2.耶穌稱呼外邦人為狗

五百年前,基督徒用聖經來合理化宗教戰爭
四百年前,基督徒用聖經來合理化侵略殖民
二百年前,基督徒用聖經來合理化奴隸
今天,基督徒還是用聖經來合理化性傾向歧視和性別歧視

What is YOUR dream?

Good grief - you must still be in your dreams - what an OUTdated interpretation!

DO you eat pork? Or eels? These are clearly "forbidden" in YOUR Bible as YOU see it.

Take a look into the following long article "A letter to Louise" - from a veteran pastor who - like yourself and most other fundamentalist church pastors - used to think he "knew" what the Bible said about homosexuality until God led him to re-study the Scripture:

http://www.godmademegay.com/

and another study fom a gay pastor himself (being gay himself does not neccessarily take away the objectivity of his study):

"What the Bible Says - And Doesn't Say - About Homosexuality":

http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian.

Prejudiced and fault-finding folks abound. They judge and point their fingers towards everybody everywhere in the world except themselves.

The bottom line lies in the fact that during the times of the biblical authors the concepts of sexual orientation, "homosexuality" and gay love AS WE UNDERSTAND THEM TODAY were completely unknown to them.

Nothing is more "natural" for a homosexual man to show love and attraction towards fellow men.
Any reference to gay love as "indecent lust" or "perversion" and any modern translation of the term "homosexual" into the text is highly slanderous - which is why the "Living Bible" is often called the "Living Libel".

And curiously, WHO is in the position to decide whether Romans 1:18-27 is "OF HIGH IMPORTANCE"? YOU? On what grounds do you justify that it is more important than other Biblical texts?

So be it a choice or not, I only need to account my life to God alone, not to any prejudiced individual who persistently usurps the scripture to justify his/her own rotten prejudice.

Please respect my right to live my true self.