聖經,一本基督宗教的典籍,神(基督宗教裏的神,下同)留給人的話語(基督徒是這樣說的),神默示而成的.真的一點都沒錯嗎?真的一字不留的傳達了神的話語嗎?
如果真確的傳達了神的話語,為何會有這麼多不同的版本?為何會有天主教聖經與基督教聖經之分?不同的地方是誰定立的?又是默示而成的嗎?誰有權這樣規定?你們忘了嗎?忘了你們是信神而不是信人的嗎?
本人絕對同意宗教係本著”唯心”而不是”唯物”,但沒有了聖經,你們到底在信甚麼?信神都要有根有據,不要只聽別人說的,看別人給你看的,要勇於驗証.
一件事, 我信而為真,這件事對我來說是真的,但.....這是真的嗎?在不能驗証的情形底下,極其是一相情願吧了,說穿了, 這只是思覺失調吧, 我不反對當一個人信而為真既時候某一樣野對這位獨立個體而言,是真的, 但係客觀而言,這不是真的.而當這個獨立個體的感覺是這樣主觀而懷著對外界的標準咁諸之不理既態度, "真"既定意同現世有所不同, 而歪曲了"真"既定義, 而現世對"我信係真所以對我來說是真的"呢個諗法,人類社會比左個名佢,叫做"幻覺".
信聖經=信聖經繹者==>信教庭==>信聖經作者==>信佢地既聖靈感動==>信神?
太遠了,崇拜,是距離理解最遠的感情,
基督教對神的定義,一套不具可否証性的封閉系統,封閉系統的特性是,無法以事實證據來檢驗,而與客觀世界或真實世界隔絕.
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Believe by effort, although salvation is granted for free
I had the same questions you are having some time ago, and because it is something important to me, so I spent time and effort to find out. Maybe it is because I am a science student, before finding out the whole truth, I can only claim: I do not know. I cannot say God is real, or God is not real, because I have not find out the answer.
So I spent 3 years, went to 3 different churches, the Church of Christ, The Church of Holy Way in SF, Catholic Church, if there is a God, why were there so many churches? During those 3 years, I tried my best to study their practice, general church history, differences in theology. However, by the end of those 3 years, I couldn't find the which church was a better way to bring me closer to God, and I continued to pray to God if He's there. During the study, there was one incident which caught my attention, there were some special phenomenon happened to other people, but I couldn't feel it. So again, I couldn't say those phenomenon was true or not.
One day, I went to another conference, people were praising with songs etc. After about an hour, the pastor started to pray for the Holy Spirit, and I started to pray on my own... nothing happened, then I said, "Lord, I know that you wanted me to come, so I am here, if this is not the right time, I will wait again until the day I die..." suddenly, my back felt v. warm, and I though the sun shine from the window shined on me but it was indoor and it wasn't the case, so I neglected it, then my back, my head felt like sun ray shinning on it. My heart were touched for no reason, e.g. when we went to see movie, if it was a love story, the characters were killed in accident, we might be moved by the story and tears may come, but for my case, nothing happened, still the heart was full of that feeling, tears came down with no logical reason. Slowly I moved my head up and saw that the preacher was in tears as well. Oh???? Was it for real??
Suddenly my hands started to shake, and I prayed in heart, "Father thank you!!! (for showing me)" and my hands went faster... then slowed down... I prayed again, "Thank you Father!!!" and my hand moved faster. That was the first time I realized, all of my prayers, even prayed in heart only, no sound, not only God can hear it clearly, He could also answer me in no delay...
The phenomena is called Dwell in the Holy Spirit/Baptism in the Holy Spirt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_with_the_Holy_Spirit
It happened to me in church (building) but later on, one of my friend told me, it happened to her while she was reading at home. It happened not only within one church, but in different churches.
I have seen other miracles, e.g. my friend was having a tumor at her womb... after a group prayer, she felt heat, and later on the doctor could only find a burn mark from the exam.
The only thing left to be said is, I spent 3 years with my best effort in order to see it, and it was granted by His will. Many people may not believe it, but the rule is, He didn't just pop up and make people fear, and He is not an entertainer either. If you are willing to find out, I would ask how serious are you? If you're serious, you will find out that He is even more serious than you do.
There are many things which are encrypted. If we do not spend effort to find out, we would never understand, e.g. air is made up of air molecules.
信就是信...而在你的情形中...你就只有信
一個"讀科學的學生"這是你說的,本人不懷疑(亦不能)你的個人體驗,令我懷疑的只是,你說要"証實"(找答案)但在未經証實的情形底下,你向誰祈禱(禱告)呢?
是不是一定要在教堂才能找到答案呢?(見你的行為你假定係)
在你的經歷中,你証實了甚麼?
問你一個小小的問題,你有沒有試過排隊等坐過山車?
排的時侯有沒有一點點"興奮"或"驚"?
但為甚麼呢?你明明還在地上....
回說本人的主題,沒有聖經,你有能力知道有神嗎?(我是說基督教的)
PS:我現是不能証實有而又不能証實無的,但你呢?看來你是找到了,但你是"無法以事實證據來檢驗"的,我知道有地心吸力,不是我信,因我能驗証.
所有宗教都一樣
不必針對基督教,所有有永恒聖人/聖物/信經/信條的宗教都一樣。這個說法,並不包括不可知論,因為不可知論沒有永恒的神聖。
任何東西一旦有了永恒的神聖,那就是封閉系統。除非這個封閉系統低能得不攻自破或自相矛盾,否則科學是無力的,任何人都無方法可以知道這個「永恒的神聖」有幾真實。
如果這個世界有神或有佛,他就是魔鬼。這等於人類係農場小雞,而神佛就係農夫。我這段說話當然也無科學根據,只是凡權力必生惡,絕力權力就是絕對邪惡的政治原理。